NEWS-and searching for details - 2008/07/18 05:18 pmSo what is up with this? I could have bought more info on this...but I have lost enough with these people.
Plaintiff- Securities and Exchange Commision Defendant-U.S. Sustainable Corp.; John Revira and Alice M. Price Case#- 5:2008 CV 00245 Filed- July 17, 2008 Court- Mississippi Southern District Court Nature of suit other statutes- Securities/Commodities/Exchanges Cause 15:77 Securities Fraud Jurisdiction- U.S. Gov. Plaintiff
And to close out the week at -57%...priceless.I don't want to own the world...just the part that pays off.
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Re:NEWS-and searching for details - 2008/07/18 10:37 pmI was expecting some branch of the federal goverment to try and stop USSE. I am glad they put so much effort into selling the process to other countries. Countries that are actually interested in solving thier oil fuel problems...NON-Union and proud of it!!!
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The Gorey Details - 2008/07/18 10:53 pmI posted all the other news, so I will post this also.
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Re:The Gorey Details - 2008/07/18 11:18 pmAnyone know what the standard plea bargain is for this degree of charges? I just wonder if they will still be affected by the international stature of the violations. These charges have nothing to do with selling the process to other governments.I don't want to own the world...just the part that pays off.
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Vee-Go, Mike Garjian Respond - 2008/07/19 11:09 amWhat Vee-Go thinks? We are very much in. Why?
1.I saw the soy to oil process, the resulting fuel, and I know it works. I tested the ash and confirmed and/or discovered its amazing properties. I know John and he isn't folding.
2.The SEC has had John under a microscope for well over a year. Why did it take them so long to act? It could be that despite their harassment of him in Natchez, John successfully continued on to Baytown and found support outside of the US before they could stop him in the US. Now he has very serious international partners who couldn't give a damn about the SEC, doomed Fossil Barons, Federal Reserve, and other potential big losers. Maybe they are getting nervous and decided to act.
3.If John succeeds, the value of fossil fuel will tumble and the resulting impact on the oil/dollar connection will have dire consequences for the 1% of our population who own half of all the private property and liquid investible capital in the USA. These people may not feel threatened by biodiesel, ethanol, or scam biofuels that could be destined for failure, but John's Vertroleum could really turn the tide.
4.The fact that Alice sold $721,000 of stock is not necessarily relevant. The issue will be the timing and what she did with the money. They have to live and the only thing they have is stock until this thing goes to the heights it could achieve.
5. Under the law, if you write a check that bounces, it can either be considered a crime of uttering or be nothing of consequence at all. The difference between the two is whether you "had reason to believe" the money would be in the bank before the check got there. John has every reason to believe a number of the things he said as outlined in the docket. Granted, some may have been due to his great passion and optimism, but were they intentionally false in order to profit illegally - I don't think so.
6. Regardless of what happens to John, he isn't going to hold back on the secret nanobac formula. It's market success is the best way for him to deal a serious blow to those who might try to prevent his personal success. The horse is already out of the gate. There will be plants in Central America, Norway, Spain, Europe, etc. Those partners who are very prominent on the world stage also saw the process and have no intention of allowing their countries to be held down any longer by those outsiders who benefit from the status quo in their countries. This fuel may be the future of Central America where the political scene is definitely not in the mode of kissing US ass. When Vertroleum has its first production success, a ripple will be created that will benefit other believers.
7. By the time this suit sees a courtroom, John could be very rich, angry, and in full rhino gallop. Good luck to any SOB who stands in his way.
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Re:Vee-Go, Mike Garjian Respond - 2008/07/19 12:12 pmMr. John Rivera Responds
John Rivera Responds
Rhino
This is a post from a God fearing American individual exercising his First Amendment Right of Freedom of Speech
This is the Rhino
For those of you who don't know me by that name, let me introduce myself: I am John Rivera, the inventor and owner of the Rivera Process!
I am driven by a greater force: God, Country, Family, Friends, and the deliverance of green energy independence for mankind. I have suffered a heart attack and two strokes in my quest. I have been harassed, threatened, defamed, ridiculed, slandered, belittled and my honor impugned, and I have not mentioned or done a pr or web update for USSEC since I walked out of the SEC office the last time in Atlanta because one of the attorneys there has no command of the English language and asks the same question 10 to .................times every time I put out a pr on USSE and has cost you, the stockholders, irreparable harm on his witch hunt against me, which I can and will prove!!!! THE LINE HAS BEEN CROSSED WHEN HE BROUGHT A TEAR IN THE EYE OF SOMEONE I LOVE. He has made the biggest mistake of his life. We, the American People and the citizens in the countries who have embraced my answer to energy independence, HAVE WON!!! (not will). Sooner than expected we will say goodbye and good riddance to $4.00 plus gas prices. And I as a American and as a champion for humanity will exercise my God- given and American rights to slay the witch hunter through the American Justice System and Public Opinion.
To all USSEC stockholders, I will be walking tall and you should be proud of your major role in our success.
I humbly ask my USSEC stockholders to forgive me for my silence. It was the only way I could have the time to cross the finish line!!
To the people shorting our stock, all I have to say to you is "THE GREATEST REVENGE IN THE WORLD IS SUCESS", it's time to pay up cover and go away!!!
To the paid bashers, I hope you have unemployment insurance.
Fairway--well, Fairway will always be Fairway. P.S., if you look back far enough you will find I got fined in 1975 because my grass was too long in my exclusive gated community.
To My Faithful Longs and Supporters, I thank you for your support. I would greatly appreciate hearing from you all at support@sstp.us, support@ussec.us, or support@jhrivera.com.
The Vert fuel requires higher temps to burn while being more polluting. Since the efficiency is calculated by E=1-(Tc/Th) where Th and Tc are hot and cold temperatures of the heat sinks in the engine. Although Th is high for Vert, implying a higher efficiency, the report shows the tradeoff with higher pollution and presents the groundwork for a entropic argument making the fuel a poor alternative.
The fact that the fuel has to burn at a higher temp (for blends and pure) shows the combustion process requires a higher entropy. (Keep in mind, the entropy is a montonically increasing function of available microstates available to the molecule -- that of which is directly proportional to temperature; recall, higher temps means higher entropy for a fluid -- that's the reason fluids may transition into a gas when boiled.) In turn, this reduces the amount of available energy to perform work and damages the claims of the company.
Meanwhile the entropic argument implies that the metals need to re-engineered as to facilate a Vert-engine. That's costly and will be passed off to the consumer. Also new pollution controls will have to be implemented
In addition, the chemical processes leading to the enhanced pollution levels requires the consumption of energy as to form the polluting products. This energy is subtracted from the output of combustion -- yielding an inefficient, expensive, and dirty technology.
Sorry, the physics doesn't pan out on this one. Nice idea though, but the physics doesn't work. Hydrocarbons are more efficient, less pollutive, and cheaper. Perhaps a synthetic blend would be smart, but the paper shows that Vert isn't the way to go.http://www.freewebs.com/thefactoryfloor/
Never believe anything anyone tells unless you can figure it out for yourself. (That includes everything I tell you.)
And yes, I am a member of the GGG and follow TG.
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Re:Vee-Go, Mike Garjian Respond - 2008/08/16 08:21 amI see no one is responding to this revelation of yours which I am not agreeing with, though I have no scientific background to dispute what you are saying. However, someone who does needs to argue your point. This kind of statement cannot go unchallenged. Just wish I had the credentials to do it.
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Re:Vee-Go, Mike Garjian Respond - 2008/08/16 10:34 amMy only problem with this argument (without having a dergee in anything)is that it IS a hydrocarbon. Its not alchohol.
First lets go over the facts. USSE"s biocrude oil (Vertroleum?) contains the same hydrocarbons as petroleum crude oil. Vertroleum? is a mixture of hydrocarbons C-5 Pentane to C-20 Eicosane, when put through the same distillation process used by petroleum companies you can produce Gasoline, Oils, Kerosene, Jet Fuel, Diesel Fuel, Heating Fuel, Plastics.
Now lets go over the Summit Environmental Technologies Laboratory Reports on Vertroleum?: ALKANES
