USSE or SSTP - 2008/01/24 09:11 amI am thinking about buying more shares. Which would be the one to buy, USSE or SSTP?
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Re:USSE or SSTP - 2008/01/26 11:53 pmThis is a much asked question. Personally, I refuse to be drawn into the debate. There are many variables involved in the value of both companies, and I would bet that even Mr. Rivera does not yet know how the numbers will work out. So, the standard answer is to buy equal amounts of both Companies. Do otherwise at your own risk.
Having said that, here is a post I wrote in September:
SSTP or USSE? People keep asking which of the 2 stocks to own. I think the thing to remember is the 2 stocks are connected at the hip. USSE Produces the Fuel, SSTP Sells the Fuel. No one knows how the Revenue and Profits will be split between the two, and I think you are wasting your time trying to figure that out. Yes, SSTP gets the publicity and the Contracts, but they also must buy the Fuels from USSE, and USSE sets the sales price. If SSTP is getting too much of the profits, USSE can raise the sell price. If SSTP is not getting enough profits, USSE can lower the sales price. USSE controls the spigot.
SSTP has more Shares Outstanding, but a much lower Float. All Fuel sales will go through SSTP. SSTP is also the company that will get any Green Certificates and Credits.
USSE has less Shares Outstanding, but a much larger Float. USSE does own 640 Million Restricted shares of SSTP.
Both companies will eventually become SEC Compliant, leave the Pinks, and List on BB Exchange. SSTP is supposed to be the company Listing to BB first.
Note that USSE is the stock that moved today, that is because the news was PR'd by USSE, but not SSTP. When a Dominican Republic deal is announced, it will probably be PR'd by SSTP, so that they qualify for the Kyoto Credits (Green Certificates)
The 2 stocks will vary over time, but I just do not see the share prices being to much drastically different. They will probably leapfrog over each other back and forth. If you are wondering if one company will end up 10 times more valuable than the other, I just do not think that JR will let that happen. Only my opinion.
The whole reason for the 2 companies in the first place, was to get the added benefit of Green Certificates (big bucks). With only the one company, USSE would not have qualified to the Green Energy Credits. The 2 companies together, are worth more than one company would have been worth.
Consider building a position in both companies.
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Listen Up I was out at the site today. The plant was operating. I don't know to what extent, but it was running. I think there are a lot of things we don't know, it may be best that way. But, I can tell you that they are currently producing something in that building.
I even have a picture of the flue with steam boiling out of it. I have a picture of the new tank in back, and a picture of the ones on the side. Just thought you folks would want to know.
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Re:New DR Award Pictures - 2008/01/30 01:03 am PIC'S LOOK GOOD !!!
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DR More News - 2008/01/31 01:06 pmEconomy - 29 January 2008, 9:21 AM US$800M in renewable energy projects await Dominican President’s nod
SANTO DOMINGO.- The regulation to apply the Renewable Energies Incentive Legislation 57-07 has been in the National Palace for more than two weeks awaiting review before president Leonel Fernandez signs it into Law.
This regulation had to be ready on November 30 and National Energy Commission president Arístides Fernandez Zucco, who drafted the bill, met the deadline, but it has yet to take effect.
Interested sectors were asked to suggest any modifications on the document, while the CNE has requests for US$800 million worth of investment in renewable energy projects.
In fact the CNE president will formally announce those investments at 10 a.m. today, although none of them would materialize without securing the legislation’s tax exemptions.
On November 15 Fernandez announced the Power Contingency Plan as one his administration’s most important efforts to save energy, but already two and-a-half months have passed since that speech and the legislation still lacks a regulatory factor to apply it.
Afterwards Industry and Commerce minister Melanio Paredes also said the regulation was ready and that the chief executive would possibly take advantage of the First International Energy Week staged in the country last week to sign the regulation, which didn’t happen either.
Fernandez Zucco, interviewed by the newspaper Listin Diario, said he sent the regulation to Executive Branch Legal adviser Cesar Pina more than two weeks, but that it was still under review.
He said he would meet with Pina on Monday, in an effort to get the bill singed into Law as soon as possible, in order to take advantage of the renewable energy projects by local and international investors.
80 million dallors!!! With big $$$$ involved it makes deals more complex and may take time for this to happen.
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USSE In The Baytown Sun! - 2008/02/01 01:58 amBaytown company plans major splash on energy
By Kari Griffin Baytown Sun
Published February 1, 2008
Members of the Central American Parliament, which represents countries in South and Central America, and the Caribbean, were in Baytown Thursday because of one man’s process of turning soybeans – among other things – into biofuel.
John Rivera, CEO of Sustainable Energy Corp. and winner of an International Engineering Conference award and inventor of the “Rivera Process,” has found a way to produce biogasoline from pyrolysis biocrude oil – and he’ll be doing it right in our backyard.
Located across from Pinehurst on Highway 146, Baytown Green Energy Consortium employees have been hard at work these past couple of months setting up the test facility where a 65-foot unit of four reactors will turn substances with a carbon chain into 737 fertilizer, heavy crude oil, light crude oil and synthetic gas in just under 9 minutes – a process that has taken Rivera 20 years to perfect.
Using a prototype to show his guests how it’s done, Rivera produced the biogasoline that burned clean until it was mixed with regular gasoline, which produced black smoke.
Rivera also pointed out that what remains of the processed soybeans is used to make a 737 organic based fertilizer and soil treatment that removes harmful chemicals from soil.
“We have zero waste byproducts,” Rivera said.
The Baytown Green Energy facility, (a joint-venture with U.S. Sustainable Energy), is capable of producing 6,700 gallons of a petroleum product in a 24 -hour period and will be making 24,000 gallons a day within 90 days, Rivera said. And the completion of a 500 mega-watt green power plant, (the largest of its kind in the world), is on the horizon.
If successful, Baytonians will not have to pay the fuel adjustment charges that can make up 30 percent of their bill, Rivera said.
“I’m going to be the power company in Texas,” he said.
Parlacen President Julio González Gamarra and H.D. Fernando Ricardo Luna Waldheim from the department of engineering of Central American Parliament were impressed with what they saw going on at the Baytown facility – so impressed they were willing to contribute $4 billion for Rivera to move the project to a bigger scale right away.
“This technology has a great future,” Waldheim said.
The market for this type of product is especially strong in underdeveloped countries, he said.
“It’s just a great opportunity for us to enter and to substitute the demand and to lower the energy costs in these countries where they don’t have crude oil, but they do have the agriculture to make a joint venture with us,” Waldheim said. “Instead of being energy dependent, they could be exporting crude oil. It’s a great opportunity for the democratic countries.
Right now, these areas are making ethanol and producing a lot of sugar cane, “but it’s not a substitute for petroleum products,” Waldheim said.
Once the 400 to 800 reactors are placed all in these countries, they will use their local feeds such as nuts and other carbon-based food stock to make their own energy and export the surplus said Scott Hoerr of Farmer’s Sustainable Energy International, which is working with Rivera on this project.
“We want to take it to the grass-roots level,” Hoerr said.
Baytown Councilman Brandon Capetillo learned a lot from the informative tour.
“There is a global market for biofuels,” Capetillo said. “The City of Baytown is very interested in this type of development.”
Almost as interesting than the process that Rivas created, Capetillo said, is the fact that “this can happen right here in Baytown.”
For more information about the process taking place at Baytown Green Energy Consortium, visit http://gec.sstp.us.
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Baytown Meeting Eye Witness - 2008/02/01 11:45 amI never posted it here, but it is well known that there was a high profile 4 day meeting in Baytown this week.
Having said that, we have no idea if, when there will be an official PR. We do know that JR is being tight with the PR's until they are done deals.
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Parlacen Earmarks $4 Billion - 2008/02/01 12:46 pmfrom Biofuels Digest, The Daily Source for Biofuels News
President of Central American Parliament earmarks $4 billion for alt energy investment; targets US Sustainable Energy’s Rivera process for Latin expansion The Baytown Sun reported today that President Julio González Gamarra, president of the Central American Parliament (Parlacen), offered to contribute up to $4 billion for the expansion of the Baytown Green Energy Facility, a joint venture of US Sustainable Energy and Sustainable Energy Corporation.
President Gamarra and engineer Fernando Ricardo Luna Waldheim visited the Baytown facility following a demonstration of the “Rivera process” earlier this month in the Dominican Republic. “This technology has a great future,” Waldheim told the Sun. “It’s just a great opportunity for us to enter and to substitute the demand and to lower the energy costs in these countries where they don’t have crude oil, but they do have the agriculture,” he added.
“Instead of being energy dependent, they could be exporting crude oil. It’s a great opportunity for the democratic countries”, Waldheim said.
Panama, the Dominican Republic, Guatemala, Honduras, El Salvador and Nicaragua are members of Parlacen. Waldheim said that the Parlacen countries have the potential to install as many as 800 reactors, which would use the Rivera process to produce organic fertilizer, heavy crude oil, light crude oil and synthetic gas from carbon-based feedstocks.
The Baytown Green Energy facility has a current capacity of 2.4 Mgy, and is planning to expand capacity to 8.7 Mgy by May 2008. The joint venture partners also ultimately plan to add a 500 MW power plant at the Baytown facility.
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Re:Parlacen Earmarks $4 Billion - 2008/02/01 05:57 pmJust got back from the hub, man what a bunch of morons. Good to see you Spec.I don't want to own the world...just the part that pays off.
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Deals/Contracts - 2008/02/01 06:09 pmCurrent Deal Biofuels Capital Partners - $10 million
Still Awaiting/Possible Deals -MOU with (FSEINT) in Northern Illinois- $200K initial deposit, still awaiting on the remaining 1.8 million -President of Central American Parliament -$4 billion -Dominican President’s which CNE has requests for $800 million
With all this hype with big money and what is being done in Baytown, TX it is very exciting to hear. It makes you wonder with all the big oil companies surrounding USSE/SSTP want in on this too. $$$$$$$$$$$$$
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Parlacen, Baytown Meetings Article Summary - 2008/02/02 03:02 pmWe have many new and potential investors, so here is a summary of Friday's events. This is some very exciting stuff, but we need to remember, this is a Newspaper article, not an official Company PR (Yet).
Friday February 1 the local Newspaper, The Baytown Sun wrote an article about the USSE/SSTP Baytown Meetings. There were several stunning revelations in the article such as:
* Potential installation of up to 800 "Rivera Process" Reactors. * $4 Billion investment by Parlacen for Rivera Process expansion into Latin America.
Possible Parlacen Funding Sources: Central and South America are much different than the U.S. It has been documented here that the Dominican Republic, is plagued by frequent power blackouts, which hurts their economy and keeps them in poverty. Most Latin American countries are in the same situation. The Funds are mostly coming from The World Bank, IBD or IMF Fund. Here are a few links of some Funding sources:
barrettjet is an investor that posts on IV, and lives in the Dallas, Texas area. He was invited to a day of the Baytown Meetings. Here are some of his comments about the Meeting, that you may, or may not, find informative and interesting:
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Parlacen, Baytown Meetings Article Summary - 2008/02/02 03:09 pmWe have many new and potential investors, so here is a summary of Friday's events. This is some very exciting stuff, but we need to remember, this is a Newspaper article, not an official Company PR (Yet).
Friday February 1 the local Newspaper, The Baytown Sun wrote an article about the USSE/SSTP Baytown Meetings. There were several stunning revelations in the article such as:
* Potential installation of up to 800 "Rivera Process" Reactors. * $4 Billion investment by Parlacen for Rivera Process expansion into Latin America.
Possible Parlacen Funding Sources: Central and South America are much different than the U.S. It has been documented here that the Dominican Republic, is plagued by frequent power blackouts, which hurts their economy and keeps them in poverty. Most Latin American countries are in the same situation. The Funds are mostly coming from The World Bank, IBD or IMF Fund. Here are a few links of some Funding sources:
barrettjet is an investor that posts on IV, and lives in the Dallas, Texas area. He was invited to a day of the Baytown Meetings. Here are some of his comments about the Meeting, that you may, or may not, find informative and interesting:
