RE: WNBD..Awful quiet around here - 2008/09/24 01:13 pm Very nice buys right now! Let's see that .006 by EOD
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RE: WNBD..Awful quiet around here - 2008/09/24 01:24 pmdds63660 wrote: Hey, I lost my bookmark for the new website can someone email it to me, at dds63660@yahoo.com
RE: WNBD..Awful quiet around here - 2008/09/24 01:40 pmThis trading is getting interesting. Every trade in the last 30 minutes has been a mirror at the exact same price. Usually there is a small spread on the mirrors but not on these. This may have an interesting close today IMO.
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RE: WNBD..Awful quiet around here - 2008/09/25 12:58 pmPosted by Soapy/Heywood on other sites
Date: Thursday, September 25, 2008 12:26:14 PM In reply to: None Post # of 45417
*** MEMO FROM ERIC (Doesn't quite cut and paste cleanly.)
Memo to Investment Forum Moderators From Eric Lehner, CEO Winning Brands Corporation
I have received many queries recently from shareholders and people who follow the forums generally about the status of our product listing in the USA with a “national” banner. At the heart of these questions is a desire for confirmation as to whether such a listing will happen, and if so, when. I will answer this in the forum environment for three reasons; to ensure accuracy, even handedness and for efficiency in the use of my time.
People who have followed the company over the past 18 months will have noticed the straightforward communications emanating from the company. Our comments for attribution are conservative and cautious. Such comments are careful to not misrepresent that status of the company and always emphasize the risks involved. I have been criticized for not being more promotional, no doubt because shareholders generally would like promotional activity to increase demand for our shares and thus provide the easiest and fastest possible capital gain. The time has come for me to make some policy statements to clear up these issues once and for all.
Firstly, on the subject of an opening listing with a major national banner. We have been in serious negotiations with a major national banner for the better part of this year. Discussions with additional banners are now also opening up too. The negotiations involve many details because it is a risk for the major banner to take our (relatively unknown) product in to replace better known products. Stores of the type we are talking about seem large, but the shelving space is still very carefully managed and finite in the available number of product placements; the shelves are not elastic. If our product goes on, it is likely that something else is coming off. This is particularly true at a time when the U.S. economy has been seeing a contraction of the housing market, creating a domino effect. In other words, the business climate is more risk-adverse than before and professional buyers and category managers do not want their organizations stuck with poor listings choices.
Despite this challenge, we have made continuous progress in our discussions because Winning Colours Stain Remover is unique in its category and has the “right stuff” to become a household name because of its special qualities. The most recent of our face-to-face meetings with the prime prospect took place yesterday and was very satisfactory in tone and content, apparently for all participants. There is a little bit more work to do on our part, but we are told that a concrete decision about whether we will commence operations with that firm will be made on November 11th. I am sharing what we understand the situation to be, not making a promise. Please note also that I am not mentioning names or even hinting. There is no way whatsoever to infer from my comments above with whom we are discussing the listing. I am not being coy; it must be this way for reasons of business courtesy and confidentiality toward our discussion partners.
If such a listing materializes, it will be a tremendous boost to Winning Brands because it will provide us with unprecedented efficiency to advertise our product to the entire country and be available to consumers easily wherever they live. The scale of such operations would put us into a new position to succeed more quickly and on a larger scale. However, Winning Brands is not putting all of our eggs into this one basket. Therefore even if the decision in November is not favourable, then we will carry on growing. But it is nonetheless obvious that such a development would be highly beneficial to shareholders. By having been so forthright in my comments above, a situation has been created whereby people will now be effectively able to decide while share prices are low whether they wish to speculate on whether we will, or will not, receive that listing. Some may leave the family of shareholders feeling that the risk is too great, or the time frame is too long for their tastes. On the other hand, there will be people who feel that the current valuation of the shares at these prices makes Winning Brands undervalued relative to the impact of such a listing on our viability. Simple arithmetic shows that the current share price multiplied by the float gives the company a valuation of less than what the annual revenue could be from the one account - as if no other accounts will exist, no other Winning Brands products exist and no other countries exist. In other words, they will feel that our company (and any company with these circumstances) has more up-side potential than down-side.
I will not try to persuade anyone. Our team is on a mission to keep growing from our humble beginnings as a new “Pink” to a national brand in Canada, and ultimately into the USA – a market that is more than 10 times larger than Canada. It is our goal in the process to become a substantial, profitable and respected brand whose shareholders benefit as the point of the exercise. That is what I am focusing on.
Shareholders need to accept the fact that the price to be paid for the enormous capital gains inherent in speculation is the risk of uncertainty. I cannot make the uncertainty go away and it is this uncertainty which provides the potential for the enterprising and ambitious amongst us to earn substantial returns over time. Many shareholders benefited enormously from the rise of our shares from 000 territory last December. It will be obvious to watchers of Winning Brands that we have real products, they are on sale in real stores, with real customers and a growing following. Other brand success stories in our generation may have appeared to come out of nowhere when they finally hit the limelight, but those “overnight” successes were actually struggling and uncertain during their own formative period until key events became tipping points catapulting them onto the national stage. This is what I expect will happen to us.
For this reason, I am not willing to hire stock promoters to artificially increase the price of the shares based on a frenzy of promises being made by such promoters to prospective share purchasers. Instead, the time to engage a professional awareness building team is when the actual, concrete, undeniable business developments of the company will justify a sustained higher share price for technical reasons. We are still in the preceding stage where interested speculative investors operate on experience and instinct alerting them to an emerging success before it has come to the attention of the market in general. This is commonly known as ‘getting in on the ground floor”.
In conclusion, those of us who are currently shareholders are a tougher breed than conventional investors because we are dealing with high perceived risk. However we also perceive high potential. My point in the above remarks is that I am not in a position to remove that risk at this time. People who would sell their current holdings now in the face of what they believe to be uncertainty have thus been brought up to date as to the status of the key event that we are all waiting for. Those who would wish to purchase our shares have also been given confirmation that the aspiration for a game-changing national account listing is not merely a rumour but based on fact – such discussions are underway on a best efforts basis, with no setbacks to report at this time.
RE: WNBD..Awful quiet around here - 2008/09/25 03:34 pmI sold mine off earlier this week, bought Freddie instead for now. I just bought in at .0077 average a month ago, so I burned myself bad. I'm watching closely and will jump in again if it looks like it is ready to pop, who the hell knows. There is so much money being withdrawn from all levels of the markets it isn't funny.
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RE: WNBD..Awful quiet around here - 2008/09/26 08:14 amWrinkles wrote: I sold mine off earlier this week, bought Freddie instead for now. I just bought in at .0077 average a month ago, so I burned myself bad. I'm watching closely and will jump in again if it looks like it is ready to pop, who the hell knows. There is so much money being withdrawn from all levels of the markets it isn't funny.
Some rules never fail. News that indicates you'll have to wait a while, always lowers share price.I may not always be right but I'm never wrong
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RE: WNBD..Awful quiet around here - 2008/09/26 08:47 amI dont mind waiting,I like the odds.I'll be looking to add to my position sometime between now and then.This is the only pink I ever have and ever will hold as a long position.
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RE: WNBD..Awful quiet around here - 2008/09/26 09:00 amI'm sure something will materlize by the end of the year until then I will be looking for other plays if theye exist I will be back
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RE: WNBD..Awful quiet around here - 2008/09/26 02:51 pmPress release from WNBD today about wet clean.
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RE: WNBD..Awful quiet around here - 2008/09/26 05:16 pmSOURCE: Winning Brands Corporation Sep 26, 2008 11:19 ETWinning Brands'
SMARTTM Wet Cleaning Installed On-Time, On-Budget on Holland America Line ms Eurodam BARRIE, ON--(Marketwire - September 26, 2008) -
Winning Brands Corporation (PINKSHEETS: WNBD) (FRANKFURT: WMU) (www.WinningBrands.ca) reports that the installation of its SMART™ Wet Cleaning System on Holland America Line's ms Eurodam (www.hollandamerica.com) has been completed on-time and on-budget by Winning Brands' Solvent Free Solutions Team and is performing to specifications on the recently launched premium cruise ship.
Holland America Line has been converting its cruise ships to this environmentally friendly alternative to on-board dry cleaning. The new system, SMART™ Wet Cleaning, does not use the solvent commonly associated with dry cleaning, Perchloroethylene (Perc); instead water is used with specially formulated biodegradable cleaning agents. The conversion is part of an ongoing commitment by Holland America Line toward excellence in all fields of operation. This has led to the use of enhanced eco-responsible garment cleaning on-board supplied by Winning Brands' Solvent Free Solutions Team.
Winning Brands Corporation manufactures the SMART™ Wet Cleaning Solutions. Winning Brands' mission is to replace hazardous chemicals in widespread use with safer alternatives. Winning Brands CEO Eric Lehner appreciates the opportunity that his shareholders provide to usher in this new era of eco-responsible cleaning -- "Our owners are investing in the future. They represent the new generation of investors who are making ethical choices as part of their decision making about where to put their money. As their CEO I thank them as much as anyone for the role they play in making these breakthroughs possible. As a result, we have the means and the opportunity to address the needs of some of the world's most discerning customers -- the passengers of Holland America Line, and an increasing number of land-based professional garment cleaning facilities," Lehner concludes.
Winning Brands has also developed consumer targeted eco-responsible cleaning solutions in its mission. These include KIND™ brand laundry detergent, CLEAN1™ brand outdoor cleaner and the Winning Colours® Stain Remover brand, amongst others. The consumer products are gradually making their way to retail stores across North America.
Certain statements in this news release that are not historical facts are "forward-looking statements" within the meaning of the Private Securities Litigation Reform Act of 1995. Such statements may be identified by the use of words such as "anticipate," "believe," "expect," "future," "may," "will," "would," "should," "plan," "projected," "intend," and similar expressions. Such forward-looking statements involve known and unknown risks, uncertainties and other factors that may cause the actual results, performance or achievements of Winning Brands Corporation (the Company) to be materially different from those expressed or implied by such forward-looking statements. The Company's future operating results are dependent upon many factors, including but not limited to the Company's ability to: (i) obtain sufficient capital or a strategic business arrangement to fund its expansion plans; (ii) build the management and human resources and infrastructure necessary to support the growth of its business; (iii) successfully market its products; and (iv) competitive factors and developments beyond the Company's control. Winning Colors®, Winning Colours® is a Registered Trademark of Niagara Mist Marketing Ltd. KIND™ and CLEAN1™ are trademarks of Niagara Mist Marketing Ltd. SMART™ is a trademark of Solvent Free Solutions Inc.
RE: WNBD..Awful quiet around here - 2008/09/27 09:19 pmThere's been a TG sighting and I'm not talking about Tractor Girl, I mean THOMAS GRAHAM!
Wrink Graham's big brother...
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RE: WNBD..Awful quiet around here - 2008/09/28 11:55 amEmail from Eric. As many of you know one of our fellow investors Rick "Moses777" lives in one of the hard hit areas of Texas and a few generous posters here sent him products to help out with the cleanup. Most of Ricks damage was structual so he took the products to the local Fire Dept. he works with for distribution to those he thought needed it more than he did. I mentioned Rick's situation in an email to Eric and I just received this reply from him. Very nice Eric! Thanks again from Rick for all those that have helped out.
From: "Eric Lehner" <eric@winningbrands.ca>Add sender to Contacts To: dennisb68@yahoo.com
Hello Mr. XXXX,
It would be our privilege to provide an assortment of products to associates in Texas at no charge as a gesture of support. If you would kindly provide destination details, then I will cooperate further with you to get it done. Thank you for staying alert to ways in which we can play a constructive part in the lives of our community.
RE: WNBD..Awful quiet around here - 2008/09/29 01:21 pm I just received a copy of an email that Eric sent to Rick Carter in Texas. I can't say enough good things about this CEO and as usual he isn't looking for any recognition..
Gesture to the people of TexasMonday, September 29, 2008 10:51 AM From: "Eric Lehner" <eric@winningbrands.ca>Add sender to Contacts To: circle7@netzero.netCc: "'dennis b'" <dennisb68@yahoo.com>Memo to Rick Carter, 23250 CR-46, Angleton, Texas 77515
Hello Mr. Carter, I understand from one of our shareholders, Mr. Mike XXXX, that there is an opportunity for the people at Winning Brands Corporation to be of assistance to some Texans who are recovering from recent storms. We would be honoured to supply a substantial quantity of free cleaning solutions to people in the town of your suggestion. I understand that the average person is able to purchase cleaning liquids locally, and that these are not expensive in the context of a major clean-up. Our motivation goes more to the point of providing something free with no strings attached as a way of reaching out in friendship. There are not many opportunities for us in Canada to be of assistance to the great State of Texas, so even if in this small way we can let people there know that they are cared about by others whom they have never seen, perhaps it will provide a momentary reminder that our human family is after all, one. One thought I have is that we could deliver several skid loads of product to a community service agency that provides goods to people in need – people who are least able to fend for themselves. There is no need to tie in any publicity or recognition of any sort. Let’s just find the right public spirited organization and put it in their hands without any fanfare, for its own sake. Best regards, Eric Lehner, CEO Winning Brands Corporation
RE: WNBD..Awful quiet around here - 2008/09/30 02:58 pmBARRIE, ON, Sep 30, 2008 (MARKET WIRE via COMTEX) -- Winning Brands Corporation (PINKSHEETS: WNBD) (FRANKFURT: WMU) (www.WinningBrands.ca) reports that the first of its European product Ambassadors is arriving in Venice today. Consistent with the Winning Brands long-term view that shareholders should not be dependent exclusively upon U.S. consumer market conditions for growth, Winning Brands is implementing a new form of engagement with European business prospects referred to as its "Ambassadors Program." The first of these Ambassadors, Lisa Smith of Barrie, Ontario will move to, and be based in, Northern Italy, within driving distance of Germany, Switzerland, Austria and France while still servicing Italy, the primary launch point for her Ambassador's assignment. The combined population within a 500-mile radius from this position is over 200 million people.
Ms. Smith will be stationed near the city of Trento for an initial assignment of one year. Her mission will be to provide Europeans with first-hand experience with Winning Colours Stain Remover, the company's popular new eco-responsible clean-up liquid. The target applications for Winning Colours business development in Europe will be paint messes, grease and grime; applications for which Winning Colours Stain Remover is gaining fans in North America due to its gentleness on skin, ease of use and versatility. Market tests and the development of consumer feedback from initial retail evaluation sites will be at the heart of Winning Brands Ambassador experience.
The Ambassador Program is designed to develop suitable arrangements with prospective business partners in a distant market by way of a grounded presence in that market first. This better acquaints those prospective business partners and the company with the full scope of possibilities for their relationship. Winning Brands feels that this "market aware" approach will result in better matched and more effective relationships than ordinarily sales junkets that stress "first opportunity" deals with distributors and agents. Winning Brands CEO Eric Lehner describes the innovation of the Ambassadors Program -- "In the old days prior to the internet, personal visits needed to accomplish the dual tasks of conveying information and recruiting suitable relationships. That leads to a shallow, less informed approach because of the emphasis on 'first opportunities.' In the internet age however, we can get audio/visual and printable information to prospective markets easily. This allows us to now focus purely on the development of the relationships, which is still a human activity, and more valuable. Winning Brands Ambassadors have a lot in common with the diplomatic corps -- they help identify common ground between people and facilitate constructive arrangements. The best Ambassadors also recommend from the field, rather than only implementing ideas that originate from home. In this way, an authentic international character is introduced to
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