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Re:BLLB--Short Week - 2008/09/02 01:07 pmpolliesboy wrote: goldenrod wrote: egotarian wrote: polliesboy wrote: goldenrod wrote: This oil rambling reminds me of another 2 headed liberal rant.
I came upon a leftist rant about the oil companies, through all of history starting at the turn of the century, pushing the finite supply theory to buoy prices. According to the leftist rant, there is no finite supply as suggested by "EVIL OIL".
Supported by extensive scientific study, the earth is a oil generator of nearly infinite supply. Debunking the age old theory that oil is a result of surface decomposition, oil, in fact, is internally created at the earths core.
Recently, it seems, there is more political scare power in the natural shortage theory. Hell everything is a liberal issue with you.Now as far as the earth being an oil generator,how come the scientist dont think support that theory.Seems that theory came from somewhere besides the scientific community.Goldie this is one argument you can not support.
Oil is not formed at the Earths core, however it is one of the main energy sources along with pressure that converts organic material into gas and oil.
Oil and gas are formed by the anaerobic decay of organic material in conditions of increased temperature and pressure.
Layers of mud prevent air from reaching the organic material. Without air, the organic material can't rot in the same way as organic material rots away in a compost heap. As the layers of mud grow in thickness, they push down on the organic material with increasing pressure. The temperature of the organic material is increased processes going on inside the Earth.
Very slowly, increasing temperature, pressure and anaerobic bacteria - micro-organisms that can live without oxygen - start to act on the organic material. As this happened the material is slowly cooked and altered, like food in a pressure cooker. The energy first given to the plants by the sun is transferred and the organic matter is changed into crude oil and gas.
That was the oil company theory. Dinosaurs, vegetation and such decomposed into oil. In the seventies, every effort was made to punch holes in that finite supply theory.
If you want the answer to your question,have only to look at the core temperature of the eart.
Not my theory. I just follow the left wing "LOONS".I may not always be right but I'm never wrong
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How about that. They were trying to float that boat in 1974, also.I may not always be right but I'm never wrong
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Re:BLLB--Short Week - 2008/09/02 01:10 pmgoldenrod wrote: polliesboy wrote: goldenrod wrote: Pollie likes T. Boone, these days. He quotes him often enough. T. Boone likes natural gas driven vehicles but he also says, "DRILL, DRILL, DRILL" Pickens sure says that,but makes a point that it is only a stopgap measure to bridge conversion to alternate energy.Hey Pickens is a republican.He just tells it like it is about oil.If he thought the ground was full of oil,he wouldn`t be taking the route he is heading.You can not argue that point.Its just too obvious.
The point, as you put it, is: We've been throwing tons of money at alternatives and they are still on the drawing room floor. Natural gas may be viable, biofuel isn't. Hydrogen may be viable, batteries aren't.
Reality is that we can reduce our need for oil, 30% at the outside, in ten years. Nut case Obama is promising freedom from foreign oil in 10 years.
Maybe Pickens knows there is oil he just needs to get the rights to the land to put up a few wells after everyone is sold on the idea of all this wind sourced energy? I agree that wind is a great “gap” source but hey what are a few oil wells mixed in with them?I'll drink to that!
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Re:BLLB--Short Week - 2008/09/02 01:13 pmCondosan wrote: goldenrod wrote: polliesboy wrote: goldenrod wrote: Pollie likes T. Boone, these days. He quotes him often enough. T. Boone likes natural gas driven vehicles but he also says, "DRILL, DRILL, DRILL" Pickens sure says that,but makes a point that it is only a stopgap measure to bridge conversion to alternate energy.Hey Pickens is a republican.He just tells it like it is about oil.If he thought the ground was full of oil,he wouldn`t be taking the route he is heading.You can not argue that point.Its just too obvious.
The point, as you put it, is: We've been throwing tons of money at alternatives and they are still on the drawing room floor. Natural gas may be viable, biofuel isn't. Hydrogen may be viable, batteries aren't.
Reality is that we can reduce our need for oil, 30% at the outside, in ten years. Nut case Obama is promising freedom from foreign oil in 10 years.
Maybe Pickens knows there is oil he just needs to get the rights to the land to put up a few wells after everyone is sold on the idea of all this wind sourced energy? I agree that wind is a great “gap” source but hey what are a few oil wells mixed in with them?
Good point. Him and his partners own about half of West Texas.I may not always be right but I'm never wrong
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Re:BLLB--Short Week - 2008/09/02 01:15 pmScientist claim the core temp of eath is between 3000 to 5000 celsius.1 degree celsius is = 33.8F. What can withstand these temperatures.What is it that the earth core is converting into oil.Oil would not be a liquid,it would have to be a gaseous form.How far would it have to rise in the ground before cooling enough to revert back to a liquid form.It would have to reach dew point.If you want something done right,do it yourself.If you cant do it yourself,either do without or get used to mediocracy.
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Re:BLLB--Short Week - 2008/09/02 01:16 pmdid you guys see where disney land kicked Obama out of the park?www.bearpawartworks.com
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Re:BLLB--Short Week - 2008/09/02 01:19 pmgoldenrod wrote: egotarian wrote: polliesboy wrote: goldenrod wrote: This oil rambling reminds me of another 2 headed liberal rant.
I came upon a leftist rant about the oil companies, through all of history starting at the turn of the century, pushing the finite supply theory to buoy prices. According to the leftist rant, there is no finite supply as suggested by "EVIL OIL".
Supported by extensive scientific study, the earth is a oil generator of nearly infinite supply. Debunking the age old theory that oil is a result of surface decomposition, oil, in fact, is internally created at the earths core.
Recently, it seems, there is more political scare power in the natural shortage theory. Hell everything is a liberal issue with you.Now as far as the earth being an oil generator,how come the scientist dont think support that theory.Seems that theory came from somewhere besides the scientific community.Goldie this is one argument you can not support.
Oil is not formed at the Earths core, however it is one of the main energy sources along with pressure that converts organic material into gas and oil.
Oil and gas are formed by the anaerobic decay of organic material in conditions of increased temperature and pressure.
Layers of mud prevent air from reaching the organic material. Without air, the organic material can't rot in the same way as organic material rots away in a compost heap. As the layers of mud grow in thickness, they push down on the organic material with increasing pressure. The temperature of the organic material is increased processes going on inside the Earth.
Very slowly, increasing temperature, pressure and anaerobic bacteria - micro-organisms that can live without oxygen - start to act on the organic material. As this happened the material is slowly cooked and altered, like food in a pressure cooker. The energy first given to the plants by the sun is transferred and the organic matter is changed into crude oil and gas.
That was the oil company theory. Dinosaurs, vegetation and such decomposed into oil. In the seventies, every effort was made to punch holes in that finite supply theory. Is this what your talking about? it would be cool if that is another source of oil/gas.
Abiogenic Hydrocarbon Production at Lost City Hydrothermal Field.
Low-molecular-weight hydrocarbons in natural hydrothermal fluids have been attributed to abiogenic production by Fischer-Tropsch type (FTT) reactions, although clear evidence for such a process has been elusive. Here, we present concentration, and stable and radiocarbon isotope, data from hydrocarbons dissolved in hydrogen-rich fluids venting at the ultramafic-hosted Lost City Hydrothermal Field. A distinct "inverse" trend in the stable carbon and hydrogen isotopic composition of C1 to C4 hydrocarbons is compatible with FTT genesis. Radiocarbon evidence rules out seawater bicarbonate as the carbon source for FTT reactions, suggesting that a mantle-derived inorganic carbon source is leached from the host rocks. Our findings illustrate that the abiotic synthesis of hydrocarbons in nature may occur in thepresence of ultramafic rocks, water, and moderate amounts of heat. The moments of happiness we enjoy take us by surprise. It is not that we seize them, but that they seize us.
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Re:BLLB--Short Week - 2008/09/02 01:19 pmAnother theory of deception.Do you guys ever deal in scientific fact and the laws of averages & probabilities.If you want something done right,do it yourself.If you cant do it yourself,either do without or get used to mediocracy.
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Re:BLLB--Short Week - 2008/09/02 01:20 pmndssomluk wrote: did you guys see where disney land kicked Obama out of the park?
ONLY FANTASY LAND. He's a bad influence on what little reality still exists.I may not always be right but I'm never wrong
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Re:BLLB--Short Week - 2008/09/02 01:21 pmndssomluk wrote: did you guys see where disney land kicked Obama out of the park?
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Re:BLLB--Short Week - 2008/09/02 01:21 pmpolliesboy wrote: Another theory of deception.Do you guys ever deal in scientific fact and the laws of averages & probabilities.
I just deal in the spin. No foreign oil in 10 years.I may not always be right but I'm never wrong
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Re:BLLB--Short Week - 2008/09/02 01:24 pmndssomluk wrote: did you guys see where disney land kicked Obama out of the park?
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Re:BLLB--Short Week - 2008/09/02 01:26 pmgoldenrod wrote: polliesboy wrote: Another theory of deception.Do you guys ever deal in scientific fact and the laws of averages & probabilities.
I just deal in the spin. No foreign oil in 10 years.
I'm on a roll:
Health care for everyone.
College educations available to everyone.
Tax cuts for 95% of Americans.
Now I've got a headache from laughing too hard. Must be nap time.I may not always be right but I'm never wrong
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Re:BLLB--Short Week - 2008/09/02 01:26 pmPocket Change wrote: ndssomluk wrote: did you guys see where disney land kicked Obama out of the park?
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Re:BLLB--Short Week - 2008/09/02 01:27 pmpolliesboy wrote: Another theory of deception.Do you guys ever deal in scientific fact and the laws of averages & probabilities. Ego this was posted before I saw your response.This was not aimed at your article. Now for the rest.About the availability of oil.It will run out whether republicans or democrats are in power.Mother nature makes no exception for this factor.Its a given.Just exactly when is somewhat vaguer.Certainly before mid century.If you want something done right,do it yourself.If you cant do it yourself,either do without or get used to mediocracy.
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egotarian
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Re:BLLB--Short Week - 2008/09/02 01:29 pmWell Goldie set me off looking for the articles on endless oil... Here's one... Nature News: Deep-ocean vents are a source of oil and gas (evidence of abiogenic hydrocarbons) http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1963050/posts The moments of happiness we enjoy take us by surprise. It is not that we seize them, but that they seize us.
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Re:BLLB--Short Week - 2008/09/02 01:30 pmndssomluk wrote: ndssomluk wrote: did you guys see where disney land kicked Obama out of the park?
They said he was fucking goofy!!! It sounds more like something the republicans would do.They are the ones that have a pension for gay pages.If you want something done right,do it yourself.If you cant do it yourself,either do without or get used to mediocracy.
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Re:BLLB--Short Week - 2008/09/02 01:55 pmwell pollies gotta agree with you on the media being wrong bringing up palin's daughters pregnacy way out of line CE sent off a letter to bllb probably get the same responce as everyone else NONE CE
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Re:BLLB--Short Week - 2008/09/02 02:13 pmcrazyelk wrote: well pollies gotta agree with you on the media being wrong bringing up palin's daughters pregnacy way out of line CE Yes, but it does highlight her stand on Sex Education... She is a "firm supporter of abstinence-only education in schools"... and said that, " explicit sex-ed programs will not find my support." It gives one something to think about. The moments of happiness we enjoy take us by surprise. It is not that we seize them, but that they seize us.
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Re:BLLB--Short Week - 2008/09/02 02:20 pmcrazyelk wrote: well pollies gotta agree with you on the media being wrong bringing up palin's daughters pregnacy way out of line CE sent off a letter to bllb probably get the same responce as everyone else NONE CE
I don`t care which side of the aisle your on.Right is right.I feel like im an ethical person,no matter how some feel about things I say.Some things are just not political.We all no the story of the proverbial preachers son.Children stumble despite the best we can teach them.I believe there`s more people that have children out of wedlock than with the benefit of marriage.I dont approve of the practice but yet do not condemn them to hell fire either.Just youth knowing less than think they know.If they want to challenge the woman on other issues fine.I wouldn`t even challenge the experience issue had the republicans not open the door to that issue first.Experience carries very little insight into a persons ability as far as Im concerned.Some of the better leaders we have had has been a learn as you go situation.No two presidential terms are alike.The world is constantly changing.Some have the ability to lead.Others can never possess this ability no matter how much experience.If you want something done right,do it yourself.If you cant do it yourself,either do without or get used to mediocracy.
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Re:BLLB--Short Week - 2008/09/02 02:26 pmegotarian wrote: crazyelk wrote: well pollies gotta agree with you on the media being wrong bringing up palin's daughters pregnacy way out of line CE Yes, but it does highlight her stand on Sex Education... She is a "firm supporter of abstinence-only education in schools"... and said that, " explicit sex-ed programs will not find my support." It gives one something to think about. I find that God has a sense of humor when it comes the self professed righteous.If you want something done right,do it yourself.If you cant do it yourself,either do without or get used to mediocracy.
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