Re:POLITICAL DISCUSSION - 2008/10/11 07:04 amI read something where other countries citizens were picking on Americans about this crisis and the market going down and our fears.
If you had Bush as your President and Pelosi as the leader of the house shoving her bills down the throats of the public with all that pork, you would be sick also.
Just think what will happen in this country if Dumbo gets elected, with Pelosi leading congress, then factor in the Dems will have a majority in the house & senate. I can hear the pigs screaming now runnning for cover. Piles of pork, talk about bankruptcy. You cut spending, you cut every frigging thing you can think of in tough times. In proseperous times I can buy into a democratic regime, but not in times like these, we don't have money to give away right now, buckle up the spending immediately. Please remember I'm the guy who has NEVER voted republican til this year. Even I get it, common sense.I love SPNG & WNBD! NEWS VERY SOON!
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Re:POLITICAL DISCUSSION - 2008/10/11 07:12 amFriday, October 10, 2008 Paulson: Government to Buy Stock in Financial Institutions, Historic Losses on Wall Street Despite Late Rally
WASHINGTON--The government will buy an ownership stake in a broad array of American banks for the first time since the Great Depression, Treasury Secretary Henry Paulson said late Friday, announcing the historic step after stock markets jolted still lower around the world despite all efforts to slow the selling stampede.
Separately, the U.S. and the globe's other industrial powers pledged to take "decisive action and use all available tools" to prevent a worldwide economic catastrophe.
"This is a period like none of us has ever seen before," declared Paulson at a rare Friday night news conference. He said the government program to purchase stock in private U.S. financial firms will be open to a broad array of institutions, including banks, in an effort to help them raise desperately needed money.I love SPNG & WNBD! NEWS VERY SOON!
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Re:POLITICAL DISCUSSION - 2008/10/11 07:19 amI wonder how this latest plan will work out of our govt buying stock in financial institutions. I can picture some big hitters licking their chops that are already in waiting for Uncle Sam to sell into them after a little run. Make some quick dough and down the road while Uncle Sam holds the bag.
I promise to start posting some positive articles, PROMISE! I'm trying to open my mind to finding a silver lining somewhere.
How about this: How about the regular Joe Schmo who has been living conservatively and being prudent with his budget, over the next year that family will do better overall with gas coming down, food prices coming down, markets going back up gradually....can't think of anymore, sorry, I'm trying. All of this is if you keep your job, if we don't slide further economically, time will tell, no idea how to survive Dumbo though. That is the final nail in the coffin. Was that good for glass half full? I love SPNG & WNBD! NEWS VERY SOON!
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Re:POLITICAL DISCUSSION - 2008/10/11 09:44 amA real republican candidate for president would have voted "nay" on the bailout. Committing "our" money, with such a poor understanding of where it would go, is a sad commentary.
Do you recall, they passed out a glossary of Wall St. terminology, to the Congressmen, before they deliberated the vote? THEY HAD NO CLUE.
I want hearings to start immediately because, if we don't expose those responsible, they will remain in their positions to continue the destruction.
On a personal note: We moved all of our serious money, 401K and IRA's, into PIMCO a few weeks ago. I'm about to call "BOTTOM" and go back to the stock based funds.I may not always be right but I'm never wrong
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Re:POLITICAL DISCUSSION - 2008/10/11 10:02 amHank1 wrote: AND HERE'S WHAT CAUSED IT !! Thank You President Clinton ....
NY Times article
September 30, 1999 Fannie Mae Eases Credit To Aid Mortgage Lending By STEVEN A. HOLMES In a move that could help increase home ownership rates among minorities and low-income consumers, the Fannie Mae Corporation is easing the credit requirements on loans that it will purchase from banks and other lenders. The action, which will begin as a pilot program involving 24 banks in 15 markets -- including the New York metropolitan region -- will encourage those banks to extend home mortgages to individuals whose credit is generally not good enough to qualify for conventional loans. Fannie Mae officials say they hope to make it a nationwide program by next spring. Fannie Mae, the nation's biggest underwriter of home mortgages, has been under increasing pressure from the Clinton Administration to expand mortgage loans among low and moderate income people and felt pressure from stock holders to maintain its phenomenal growth in profits. In addition, banks, thrift institutions and mortgage companies have been pressing Fannie Mae to help them make more loans to so-called subprime borrowers. These borrowers whose incomes, credit ratings and savings are not good enough to qualify for conventional loans, can only get loans from finance companies that charge much higher interest rates -- anywhere from three to four percentage points higher than conventional loans. ''Fannie Mae has expanded home ownership for millions of families in the 1990's by reducing down payment requirements,'' said Franklin D. Raines, Fannie Mae's chairman and chief executive officer. ''Yet there remain too many borrowers whose credit is just a notch below what our underwriting has required who have been relegated to paying significantly higher mortgage rates in the so-called subprime market.'' Demographic information on these borrowers is sketchy. But at least one study indicates that 18 percent of the loans in the subprime market went to black borrowers, compared to 5 per cent of loans in the conventional loan market. In moving, even tentatively, into this new area of lending, Fannie Mae is taking on significantly more risk, which may not pose any difficulties during flush economic times. But the government-subsidized corporation may run into trouble in an economic downturn, prompting a government rescue similar to that of the savings and loan industry in the 1980's. ''From the perspective of many people, including me, this is another thrift industry growing up around us,'' said Peter Wallison a resident fellow at the American Enterprise Institute. ''If they fail, the government will have to step up and bail them out the way it stepped up and bailed out the thrift industry.'' Under Fannie Mae's pilot program, consumers who qualify can secure a mortgage with an interest rate one percentage point above that of a conventional, 30-year fixed rate mortgage of less than $240,000 -- a rate that currently averages about 7.76 per cent. If the borrower makes his or her monthly payments on time for two years, the one percentage point premium is dropped. Fannie Mae, the nation's biggest underwriter of home mortgages, does not lend money directly to consumers. Instead, it purchases loans that banks make on what is called the secondary market. By expanding the type of loans that it will buy, Fannie Mae is hoping to spur banks to make more loans to people with less-than-stellar credit ratings. Fannie Mae officials stress that the new mortgages will be extended to all potential borrowers who can qualify for a mortgage. But they add that the move is intended in part to increase the number of minority and low income home owners who tend to have worse credit ratings than non-Hispanic whites. Home ownership has, in fact, exploded among minorities during the economic boom of the 1990's. The number of mortgages extended to Hispanic applicants jumped by 87.2 per cent from 1993 to 1998, according to Harvard University's Joint Center for Housing Studies. During that same period the number of African Americans who got mortgages to buy a home increased by 71.9 per cent and the number of Asian Americans by 46.3 per cent. In contrast, the number of non-Hispanic whites who received loans for homes increased by 31.2 per cent. Despite these gains, home ownership rates for minorities continue to lag behind non-Hispanic whites, in part because blacks and Hispanics in particular tend to have on average worse credit ratings. In July, the Department of Housing and Urban Development proposed that by the year 2001, 50 percent of Fannie Mae's and Freddie Mac's portfolio be made up of loans to low and moderate-income borrowers. Last year, 44 percent of the loans Fannie Mae purchased were from these groups. The change in policy also comes at the same time that HUD is investigating allegations of racial discrimination in the automated underwriting systems used by Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac to determine the credit-worthiness of credit applicants.
I always believed, the lax lending was intended to serve a very narrow population base, drawn strictly on race. Non white, low income borrowers were the target and from a social, slavery guilt, perspective, it seemed like a good idea.
The Democrats were soothing their social conscience by granting racial favors, which historically has been their underlying platform.
I blame the Republicans. The collapse of the dotcom bubble, 911 and 2 wars, all caused by George Bush, took the Republican's "eye off the ball". The Democrats were permitted to proceed, unregulated. Through FANNIE & FREDDIE, the subprimes that were intended to service under 5% of the mortgage market grew to service over 50% of the market.
The rest is history. Did the Democrats cause this? "HELL, YES". Did the Republicans permit it? "HELL, YES".I may not always be right but I'm never wrong
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Re:POLITICAL DISCUSSION - 2008/10/11 10:23 amI sure am glad Sarah didn't tell Todd to, "TAKE THE ASSHOLE OUT IN THE WOODS AND SHOOT HIM". We might have a contoversy.I may not always be right but I'm never wrong
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Re:POLITICAL DISCUSSION - 2008/10/11 10:52 amJust for fun:
Who believes we'll get another check,"IN THE MAIL"?
Who believes a check "IN THE MAIL" is a tax cut?
Who believes you will see a tax cut when the Bush tax cuts expire?
Who believes universal health care is possible under any plan?
Who believes the pentagon costs more than the entitlement programs?
Who believes we won't have a boom of epic proportions, by 2011, when the economy has its legs back and the wars scale down? EPIC?
Who believes that Barnie Frank and Chris Dodd won't be brought up on corruption charges?
Who believes that Ayers, Wright, Pfleger, Rezko, Farrakhan, Mansour, Khalidi, Asbahi, ACORN, La Raza etal. don't matter and shouldn't keep you from worshipping "THE MESSIAH".
Can we survive without the federal government regulating, almost everything?
Can we survive if the federal government regulates, almost everything?
Is the Texas vs. Oklahoma football game the center of the universe? We love our State Fair with the showplace Cotton Bowl. What could be better than the biggest football game of the year being held in the middle of the biggest state fair, anywhere?I may not always be right but I'm never wrong
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Re:POLITICAL DISCUSSION - 2008/10/11 12:06 pmWho believes its a tax cut if the revenue loss has to be offset by borrowed money?If you want something done right,do it yourself.If you cant do it yourself,either do without or get used to mediocracy.
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Re:POLITICAL DISCUSSION - 2008/10/12 07:01 ampolliesboy wrote: Who believes its a tax cut if the revenue loss has to be offset by borrowed money?
Who asked ya'?...
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Re:POLITICAL DISCUSSION - 2008/10/13 07:04 amNancy Pelosi says, she's ready to get back to work.
As soon as Barack is elected, she wants to call Congress back in session. I guess she wants to get the "tax cut" in the mail before Christmas. She also wants extended unemployment and expanded food programs. 100 billion here, 100 billion there, no problem.I may not always be right but I'm never wrong
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Re:POLITICAL DISCUSSION - 2008/10/13 07:43 amgoldenrod wrote: Nancy Pelosi says, she's ready to get back to work.
As soon as Barack is elected, she wants to call Congress back in session. I guess she wants to get the "tax cut" in the mail before Christmas. She also wants extended unemployment and expanded food programs. 100 billion here, 100 billion there, no problem.
What's the matter with you Golden? You didn't know they grow money trees in the yard at the White House? Ms. Pelosi said she only likes Obama better than McCain becuase he can reach higher. I love SPNG & WNBD! NEWS VERY SOON!
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Re:POLITICAL DISCUSSION - 2008/10/13 07:46 amhere's a little something I got this am. Maybe Pollie can explain it...
>>> To All My Friends, this is long, but every important, please take the
>>> time to read it. This election has me very worried. So many things to
>>> consider. About a year ago I would have voted for Obama. I have changed
>>> my mind three times since than. I watch all the news channels, jumping
>>> from one to another. I must say this drives my husband crazy. But, I
>>> feel if you view MSNBC, CNN, and Fox News, you might get some middle
>>> ground to work with. About six months ago, I started thinking 'where did
>>> the money come from for Obama'. I have four daughters who went to
>>> college, and we were middle class, and money was tight. We (including
>>> my girls) worked hard and there were lots of student loans.
>>>
>>> I started looking into Obama's life.
>>>
>>> Around 1979 Obama started college at Occidental in California . He is
>>> very open about his two years at Occidental, he tried all kinds of drugs
>>> and was wasting his time but, even though he had a brilliant mind, did
>>> not apply himself to his studies. 'Barry' (that was the name he used all
>>> his life) during this time had two roommates, Muhammad Hasan Chandoo and
>>> Wahid Hamid, both from Pakistan . During the summer of 1981, after his
>>> second year in college, he made a 'round the world' trip. Stopping to
>>> see his mother in Indonesia , next Hyderabad in India , three weeks in
>>> Karachi , Pakistan where he stayed with his roommate's family, then off
>>> to Africa to visit his father's family. My question - Where did he get
>>> the money for this trip? Nether I, nor any one of my children would have
>>> had money for a trip like this when they where in college. When he came
>>> back he started school at Columbia University in New York. It is at
>>> this time he wants everyone to call him Barack - not Barry. Do you
>>> know what the tuition is at Columbia? It's not cheap to say the least!
>>> Where did he get money for tuition? Student Loans? Maybe. After
>>> Columbia, he went to Chicago to work as a Community Organizer for
>>> $12,000 a year. Why Chicago? Why not New York? He was already living
>>> in New York.
>>>
>>> By 'chance' he met Antoin 'Tony' Rezko, born in Aleppo Syria, and a
>>> real estate developer in Chicago. Rezko has been convicted of fraud and
>>> bribery this year. Rezko, was named 'Entrepreneur of the Decade' by the
>>> Arab-American Business and Professional Association'. About two years
>>> later, Obama entered Harvard Law School. Do you have any idea what
>>> tuition is for Harvard Law School? Where did he get the money for Law
>>> School? More student loans? After Law school, he went back to Chicago.
>>> Rezko offered him a job, which he turned down. But, he did take a job
>>> with Davis, Miner, Barnhill & Galland. Guess what? They represented
>>> 'Rezar' which is Rezko's firm. Rezko was one of Obama's first major
>>> financial contributors when he ran for office in Chicago. In 2003,
>>> Rezko threw an early fundraiser for Obama which Chicago Tribune reporter
>>> David Mendelland claims was instrumental in providing Obama with 'seed
>>> money' for his U.S. Senate race.
>>>
>>> In 2005, Obama purchased a new home in Kenwoood District of Chicago for
>>> $1.65 million (less than asking price). With ALL those Student Loans -
>>> Where did he get the money for the property? On the same day Rezko's
>>> wife, Rita, purchased the adjoining empty lot for full price. The London
>>> Times reported that Nadhmi Auchi, an Iraqi-born Billionaire loaned Rezko
>>> $3.5 million three weeks before Obama's new home was purchased. Obama
>>> met Nadhmi Auchi many times with Rezko.
>>>
>>> Now, we have Obama running for President. Valerie Jarrett, was Michele
>>> Obama's boss. She is now Obama's chief advisor and he does not make any
>>> major decisions without talking to her first. Where was Jarrett born?
>>> Ready for this? Shiraz, Iran! Do we see a pattern here? Or am I going
>>> crazy?
>>>
>>> On May 10, 2008 The Times reported, Robert Malley, advisor to Obama, was
>>> 'sacked' after the press found out he was having regular contacts with
>>> 'Hamas', which controls Gaza and is connected with Iran. This past
>>> week, buried in the back part of the papers, Iraqi newspapers reported
>>> that during Obama's visit to Iraq, he asked their leaders to do nothing
>>> about the war until after he is elected, and he will 'Take care of
>>> things'.
>>>
>>> Oh, and by the way, remember the college roommates that where born in
>>> Pakistan? They are in charge of all those 'small' Internet campaign
>>> contributions for Obama. Where is that money coming from? The poor and
>>> middle class in this country? Or could it be from the Middle East?
>>>
>>> And the final bit of news. On September 7, 2008, The Washington Times
>>> posted a verbal slip that was made on 'This Week' with George
>>> Stephanapoulos. Obama on talking about his religion said, 'My Muslim
>>> faith'. When questioned, 'he made a mistake'. Some mistake!
>>>
>>> All of the above information I got on line. If you would like to check
>>> it - Wikipedia, encyclopedia, Barack Obama; Tony Rezko; Valerie Jarrett:
>>> Daily Times - Obama visited Pakistan in 1981; The Washington Times -
>>> September 7, 2008; The Times May 10, 2008.
>>>
>>> Now the BIG question - If I found out all this information on my own,
>>> Why haven't all of our 'intelligent' members of the press been reporting
>>> this?
>>>
>>> A phrase that keeps ringing in my ear - 'Beware of the enemy from
>>> within'!!!
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Re:POLITICAL DISCUSSION - 2008/10/13 07:53 amHeaven forbid you say he has any muslim ties, heaven forbid you say anything negative about him whatsoever or they say you are only saying it because he is black and then they will accuse you of being a racist. This whole thing is sick and very sad.
Someone told me they read a recent article of a black man who was shot 3 times for wearing an Obama TShirt. Wait til a year from now and see what will be happening in this country. As I've been saying for over a year now, this is the worst thing that could have happened for black people, wait and see the ramifications.
I wonder why every Acorn person on the streets is black, and is getting other black folks registered 100 times each? Not a joke either...It is called racism against whites, no one else has the balls to say it on television. Always the other way around though.
I'm still burning up inside over Obamas quote behind closed doors in San Franciso when speaking about rural America. Recorded in his own voice.
"Just your typical white people in rural America clinging to their guns and religion."
Can't believe he has gotten away with that statement alone....I love SPNG & WNBD! NEWS VERY SOON!
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Re:POLITICAL DISCUSSION - 2008/10/13 08:15 amWhen I pull the lever for McCain, I will be holding my nose. He is such a poor excuse for a Republican.
What do you hold if you plan to pull the lever for Obama?I may not always be right but I'm never wrong
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Re:POLITICAL DISCUSSION - 2008/10/13 08:50 amWell, it seems we are of like mind about McCain/Palin. I am so disappointed!
We filled out my absentee ballots last night, put them in the mail this am with the thought...wtf difference will it really make.
Final thought...I place my trust in our God in heaven because only he knows what is truly the best choice for all of us. Only he can fight the devil and win the battle. No matter who gets elected, I will view it as what needs/should happen and try to find peace in that knowledge.
Hope we have seen a bottom in the market and things will start to move back in the right direction.
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Re:POLITICAL DISCUSSION - 2008/10/13 09:19 amI do not like Obama!!! There's to much about him we don't know and way to much about him that keeps getting swept under the rug.
I made the comment this weekend and it's sad but this election isn't about the best man for the job it's about who will be the less destructive.
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Re:POLITICAL DISCUSSION - 2008/10/13 09:43 amFriday I saw a part of an Obama speech. He told the crowd about McCain has a new plan that wasnt all that new. They cheered, he told them how McCain said he'd buy up bad mortgages, they cheered, he said McCain forgot that I proposed that a week earlier, they cheered. He went on to say how eratic McCain was and taking his idea and making it his own, (sound familiar) they cheered. Then he changed the subject for a second then he went on to explain how dumb the idea that McCain has for buying mortgages, they cheered, he talked about what a stupid idea it was, they cheered, he talked how it was going to cost to much money and they cheered. I sat there in disbelief and dissapointment at the intelligence of this people. He just said it was his idea and McCain stole it and then he turns around 1 minute later and says what a dumb idea McCain had. The people just don't listen to his BS and they just stand there with idolized smiles and cheer. I felt like I was watching that part of the Ten Commandments movie where everyone was dancing around the golden calf and moses was watching when he returned with the tablets
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Re:POLITICAL DISCUSSION - 2008/10/13 09:45 amLMAO, Thats the new Obama slogan or his new nickname, Obama, the Golden Calf
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Re:POLITICAL DISCUSSION - 2008/10/13 09:55 amgoldenrod wrote: When I pull the lever for McCain, I will be holding my nose. He is such a poor excuse for a Republican.
What do you hold if you plan to pull the lever for Obama?
I sent an email to John McCains campaign last night ripping him and his people for not having the stomach or heart for this fight. He is not worthy of this nomination since he refuses to fight for us and conservative beliefs. He has to grow a pair of balls and attack this man that is racist, terrorism ties, anti American ties and then blatant racist ties in his own two books about whites. Disgraceful, now add on Acorn, another disgusting association in an attempt to steal the White House.I love SPNG & WNBD! NEWS VERY SOON!
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Re:POLITICAL DISCUSSION - 2008/10/13 10:05 amWrinkles wrote: goldenrod wrote: When I pull the lever for McCain, I will be holding my nose. He is such a poor excuse for a Republican.
What do you hold if you plan to pull the lever for Obama?
I sent an email to John McCains campaign last night ripping him and his people for not having the stomach or heart for this fight. He is not worthy of this nomination since he refuses to fight for us and conservative beliefs. He has to grow a pair of balls and attack this man that is racist, terrorism ties, anti American ties and then blatant racist ties in his own two books about whites. Disgraceful, now add on Acorn, another disgusting association in an attempt to steal the White House.
This weekend I was watching some Obama press , well because thats what there is besides fox. Anyway they talked about McCains negative ads and Obamas ads are all positive, LIES! But anyway they said that McCain should stop the negative ads and move on. I was thinking , yea you want him to stop because if he listens to wrinks everyone will know what a bad idea Obama is and they will have it in Obamas own words
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Re:POLITICAL DISCUSSION - 2008/10/13 10:08 amThe Golden Calf, the Us Salvation
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Re:POLITICAL DISCUSSION - 2008/10/13 10:10 amndssomluk wrote: Wrinkles wrote: goldenrod wrote: When I pull the lever for McCain, I will be holding my nose. He is such a poor excuse for a Republican.
What do you hold if you plan to pull the lever for Obama?
I sent an email to John McCains campaign last night ripping him and his people for not having the stomach or heart for this fight. He is not worthy of this nomination since he refuses to fight for us and conservative beliefs. He has to grow a pair of balls and attack this man that is racist, terrorism ties, anti American ties and then blatant racist ties in his own two books about whites. Disgraceful, now add on Acorn, another disgusting association in an attempt to steal the White House.
This weekend I was watching some Obama press , well because thats what there is besides fox. Anyway they talked about McCains negative ads and Obamas ads are all positive, LIES! But anyway they said that McCain should stop the negative ads and move on. I was thinking , yea you want him to stop because if he listens to wrinks everyone will know what a bad idea Obama is and they will have it in Obamas own words
This country is becoming disgraceful, amazing how the Federal Govt doesn't step in and see to it we don't have fair elections with this Acorn nonsense. Don't leave it to the head of each state, if the person is Democrat they don't care about fair elections. We must have that simple right in this country to fair elections, bad enough the media is brainwashing a public and a whole new youth generation to become liberal. As conservative principles in older folks die off. Just sit back and wonder about 10 or 20 years from now, will there ever be a republican President again?
Anyway, it is what it is folks!I love SPNG & WNBD! NEWS VERY SOON!
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Re:POLITICAL DISCUSSION - 2008/10/13 10:21 amIf Obama gets elected he will further drive this country into even more debt, he'll increase race tension ten fold, and the world will no longer look at America as the land of the free or the land of opportunity. The US will be in shambles and the Dems will still blame anything that goes wrong on the bush Admin. But sooner or later that excuse will no longer be available so then who will they blame? I bet if Obama would put a tax on the media, lets say a sort of special income tax for making stupid money for being a celebrity he'd certainly lose that connection. The celebrities have boat loads of stupid money they can afford it and they love big government so let them pay!!!
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Re:POLITICAL DISCUSSION - 2008/10/13 10:34 amndssomluk wrote: If Obama gets elected he will further drive this country into even more debt, he'll increase race tension ten fold, and the world will no longer look at America as the land of the free or the land of opportunity. The US will be in shambles and the Dems will still blame anything that goes wrong on the bush Admin. But sooner or later that excuse will no longer be available so then who will they blame? I bet if Obama would put a tax on the media, lets say a sort of special income tax for making stupid money for being a celebrity he'd certainly lose that connection. The celebrities have boat loads of stupid money they can afford it and they love big government so let them pay!!!
I hope the azzhole public paid attention to who wrote this $700 billion bill, then add another 100 billion to it to be passed. They wrote it and approved it, way more Democrats than Republicans. Then when Dumbo is elected, this whole thing can cave around him, think of the old days and what happened way back. History has a way of repeating itself unfortunately in this country.I love SPNG & WNBD! NEWS VERY SOON!
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Re:POLITICAL DISCUSSION - 2008/10/13 10:37 amI'm struggling to pay all my taxes as it is, as a small business in this country. I have to set aside 30% for taxes out of every nickel that comes in, plus more for social security, almost 40% of every dollar is shot, I wonder how that azzhole thinks I can pay more and stay open? ESPECIALLY IN THIS REAL ESTATE QUAGMIRE....I love SPNG & WNBD! NEWS VERY SOON!
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Re:POLITICAL DISCUSSION - 2008/10/13 10:41 amNice day so far for the markets, hope she can hold the gains, but don't think they will. Might be okay for a few days or couple weeks, but the other shoes is about to drop soon, actually many shoes. I love SPNG & WNBD! NEWS VERY SOON!
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Re:POLITICAL DISCUSSION - 2008/10/13 10:45 amWrinkles wrote: Nice day so far for the markets, hope she can hold the gains, but don't think they will. Might be okay for a few days or couple weeks, but the other shoes is about to drop soon, actually many shoes.
Well October has never been a good month for the market to begin with due to the big "D" if we can make it to Novemeber maybe we will finally see that upward hill.
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Re:POLITICAL DISCUSSION - 2008/10/13 10:46 am The moments of happiness we enjoy take us by surprise. It is not that we seize them, but that they seize us.
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Re:POLITICAL DISCUSSION - 2008/10/13 10:47 amWrinkles wrote: I'm struggling to pay all my taxes as it is, as a small business in this country. I have to set aside 30% for taxes out of every nickel that comes in, plus more for social security, almost 40% of every dollar is shot, I wonder how that azzhole thinks I can pay more and stay open? ESPECIALLY IN THIS REAL ESTATE QUAGMIRE....
Wrinks , it's not about your ability to make it, it's about how many can you support with your hard earned dollar and put yourself at the same level of net profit as the guy who works at Taco Bell. Thats fair!!! According to the Golden Calf. Its great philosophy he has , It's not fair that people make more money than you, it gives the company a great excuse not to give you a raise. You want a raise well sir didn't you vote for the Golden Calf? Well then you wouldn't want to get a raise and be one of the guys thats unfair and make to much do you? Oh and I'm sure all of those poor people don't want to buy lottery tickets and take the chance on winning and then being one of the bad guys either.
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Re:POLITICAL DISCUSSION - 2008/10/13 11:11 amRemember Wrinks, The Democrats believe that hard work and prosperity from it should be punished. Reward sloth!!!
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I'm trying to open my mind to finding a silver lining somewhere. 
Was that good for glass half full? 
Ms. Pelosi said she only likes Obama better than McCain becuase he can reach higher. 
